Nihonto

Discussions related to study and preservation of Japanese Swords.

How to attach images and files to your posts

Dear All,

I'm rolling out a new system for handling images in Nihonto Club. It seemed there was always a bit of confusion for new visitors how to attach files and photos to their topics. I'm hoping that the new development will make it more convenient.

Over last 4 years I was using different solutions for handling images in different parts of the website (boards, galleries, collections etc) trying to find one which is best fit for the purpose. There were few different ideas on the table, but most importantly I needed to know how you use it.

The new system offers treatment of almost every page of certain type (forum topic, collection item, sword record) as a gallery with the possibility of attaching a number of images. Once added, they are available at the bottom of the page. If you click any image, it will bring you to the gallery view where you can browse through images, view their enlarged versions (if available) and leave your comments. You may see examples of attached media on this page.

It also allows to maintain information about ownership, copyright and licensing restrictions. It will help us to be fair to people who share their work, as well as open possibilities of using publically available image repositories such as Wikimedia Commons without breaching their Terms & Conditions. This may not be a concern for a classic style message board, but Nihonto Club is (or hoping to be) more like a research tool and we need to think long term.

Attaching images and files to the topics on Discussion Boards

  1. When you are creating a new forum topic, the first page offers you to fill out the Subject, Body of the message, optional tags and other information.

  2. If you would like to share some documents (in PDF, Word, text or other formats) or other files which are not images, attach them to the post at this stage. Otherwise you'll have an opportunity to add images in step 4.

  3. After you are happy with the way the topic looks using 'Preview' button (all fields can be edited at later stages), click 'Save' to post your topic.

  4. The second page offers you to add photos, oshigata or any other images. Either drag & drop your images into the grey box or use 'Add files' button. If you don't wish to share any images, proceed to step 8.

  5. After all the files are in the grey box, click 'Start Upload'.

  6. When upload is finished, you may (optionally) click 'Manage Images' and assign names and licensing information to each image.

  7. If you would like to sort the uploaded images, use 'Sort Images' page.

  8. Click 'View' to see the product of your work!

Attaching images and files to the existing topic

  1. If you wish to attach an additional non-image materials, click 'Edit' and attach them as files.

  2. If you wish to add more images, click 'Upload New Images' and follow steps 4-8 in the section above.

I hope you'll like the new functionality. Please share your feedback here.

Regards,
Stan

PLEASE READ: Sword/signature identification requests

There's been a recent increase in the number of requests asking to identify a sword or a signature of the sword. It's a very positive trend and a sign of growing popularity of Nihonto Club. And more so, it's an achievement of few regular members who are kindly responding to these requests.

Now it's time to review the process and define how we can do it in an orderly fashion while trying to maximize the value of this activity.

I would like to post some guidelines in order to help members and visitors with submission of such requests. While being driven by Nihonto Club management, these guidelines are in no way meant to restrict members' and visitors' freedom of self-expression, but rather to avoid potential legal issues and claims, as well as unhealthy practices and exploitation of Nihonto Club resources with commercial interest.

SUBMISSION GUIDELINES

1. Ownership

Only the present owner of the sword or a person acting on behalf of the owner can ask for assistance with identification of the sword.

2. Security & privacy

Japanese sword can be a valuable property. It is advised to avoid posting owner's personal details, disclose present location of the sword or provide any information which can be used to trace the post to the owner's identity and home address. There is no conspiracy here, just common sense considerations when posting your personal details online. If you do, you do it on your own risk. Nihonto Club will not be held responsible for any loss or criminal damage caused as a result of publishing sensitive information in any section of this website.

3. Commercial interest

It is forbidden to ask for identification of swords or other items which are currently available for sale (including auctions). This restriction considers both sellers and actual/potential buyers. Any opinion expressed on this website may potentially affect the value of the sword and it's a general policy to avoid any kind of situations which influence commercial activity. Any person failing to comply with this rule will have his/her account permanently suspended. Any past activity (posted before the publication of these rules) is exempt, if found to be in violation.

4. Copyright restrictions

Posters are only allowed to use their own photos, images or other media. Media obtained from the previous owner/seller may only be used with express written permission of the original author and copyright holder. It is welcomed to license your media under Creative Commons License to help other Nihonto enthusiasts in the future.

EXPECTATIONS

In case if you aren't very familiar with the world of Japanese swords, this section outlines what can and cannot be expected when looking for information about particular sword. It also provides some general considerations about sword handling.

  • DO NOT apply any abrasive materials to the blade in order to clean it, even if affected by active rust. Look for authentic Japanese sword care manuals and then (if required) take only passive measures against rust and other damaging conditions. Any application of power or use of chemicals and abrasives may cause PERMANENT damage to the blade and its fittings!

  • Identification of Nihonto is a very complex subject. Seeking assistance online is an easy option, but it can't replace professional appraisal by designated bodies and specialists by any means. However, professional appraisals are costly and troublesome (unless you live in Japan). Good practice would be to: a) identify whether it's a genuine Japanese sword (see below); b) find out whether it's worthy of appraisal and preservation (this includes an approximate attribution of the sword to particular smith or school); c) submit the sword for professional appraisal; d) have respect and take a regular care of the sword from this point onwards, as well as any other time while the sword is in your possession. This website may assist you to some degree with points a and b.

  • If smith's signature can be read and identified with some smith from Swordsmith Index, there is no guarantee that the signature is authentic. Reading of the signature may just narrow down the search area before looking at blade's properties.

  • There is a difference between 'a genuine Japanese sword produced using traditional methods' (category 1) and 'a genuine example of some smith's work' (category 2). The sword can be of the first category at the same time as being a fake in a sense that the signature was forged (potentially centuries ago). However, this significantly affects quality and value.

  • Conclusion whether the sword is genuine (category 1) can be given online with 80% certainty based on good quality photos (20% going to blades out of polish and some non-traditional methods). (Note: this is just my own wild estimate, not a fact.)

  • Conclusion whether the sword is fake (category 1), i.e. being a modern replica, can be 99% certain, just after looking at the photos.

  • Conclusion whether the sword is genuine (category 2) when provided as an opinion on some online resource (including Nihonto Club) doesn't provide any sufficient level of certainty at all (just being on a safe side here). It should be considered as a starting point (with greater or smaller degree of confidence, depending on the proficiency of people involved and complexity of the case), not as a fact. The notion of owning a sword by a prominent master may be heart-warming, but it's always better to approach it with a cool head.

This list will be extended further, if required, at a later date.

Your feedback is always welcome.

Akihisa Yamagami, Gendaito,Star marked, #607, Matsu (pine) in WW2 Rinji Mount

Hello Member, I'm a new member making first posting for your consideration and comments. The unverified information I have collected and combined for this purchase is as follows: this Gendaito is a WW2 unknown vet bring home with no tag or info lost in time. The Nagasa is 66cm, motokasane is 7mm, the motohaba is 3cm. the Fuchi wears a Kokura and a SayaShoten marks.Tang along with mei & date(need help as to if it is Oct. or Nov. 1943). It has Star mark, #607 and Matsu (pine).

Mei identification

Hello, I would appreciate any help anyone could give me concerning the kanji reading in English. My translator app indicates Masayuki Fujiwara. I'm not 100% sure if this is correct. I am trying to discern which Masayuki forged it. I'm attaching photos.

Sincerely,
David

Question about the Nihonto Zuikan book

Hi everyone !

In case there is anybody out there knowing how to use the Nihonto Zuikan (shinto volume, blue one), any help would be greatly appreciated because I had the chance to put my hands on one and I'm quite lost about the way it works.

Thanks in advance !

Which generation San'ami Kanekuni (兼邦) is this?

Hello,
This is my first post and I'd like to ask opinions as to which generation this Kanekuni 兼邦 wakizashi might be? I've had it for many years but I just got it back from polishing and so I was hoping that factor might help in the pinpointing of a specific era.
Thank you.

I believe it to be one of these smiths listed by Sesko (probably the San'ami den).

From Markus Sesko's Japanese Swordsmiths:
KANEKUNI (兼邦), Shitoku (至徳, 1384-1387), Mino – “Kanekuni” (兼邦), Naoe-Shizu school, it is said that he worked between Eiwa (永和, 1375-1379) and Ōei (応永, 1394-1428)

Demande de valorisation d'un Katana

Bonjours à tous,

Il y a quelques temps j'ai acquis un Katana authentique. J'aimerai connaître son histoire, son époque et son forgeron ainsi que sa valeur. Je vous joint toutes les photos. Toutes les informations sont les biens venus.

Merci par avance à vous tous pour votre aide.

Shinto Tanto : trying to find if mei is legit / smith generation

Hi everyone, here's a french newbie asking for help to authentify a blade !

I bought this unokubi zukuri tanto https://nihontoclub.com/items/Shinto-tanto-with-koshirae-by-Kawachi-no-k..., former Norbert Michaud collection, at an auction in Hôtel Drouot (Paris) 2 weeks ago.
The mei reads 河内守國助 , Kawachi no kami Kunisuke, and comparing it with other signatures found on the web, I wonder which generation it could be and if this signature is even legit...

Could anyone please have a more expert look on this ?

Orlando Japanese Sword Show

Attending

I could use some help with this Kozuka and Kogatana

I received a Tanto as a gift many years ago. This Kozuka came in the pocket of the koshirae. I would appreciate any help identifying the signature on the Kozuka and the Kogatana.

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